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Post by Second Team on Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:31 am

Thoughts for this week.

Out -  Middleton and Jimmy.
In -  Klemke and ???????   Newell, Wong, Schott, Johnson or Hampton.

Time to stand up and get a good win. Shocked Shocked Shocked

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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by Thiele on Tue Jun 09, 2015 4:16 pm

Nelson will miss http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/2991/
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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by Second Team on Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:27 pm

Watchman in for Nelson. Shocked Shocked Shocked

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Post by Bloodntars on Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:29 pm

Noticed Middleton listed as a test so hopefully he pulls up ok. Jesse Watchman is listed as missing the season so we are in a bit of trouble. Need to scour the amateur and country ranks for a ruckman as Hopton is probably next and is more of a key position player anyway.

The side I'd like to see start

F: Fielke, Hardy, Stevens
HF: Beech, Middleton, Green
C: Silverlock, Schmidt, Schiller
HB: Anderson, Klemke, Wasley-Black
B: Caire, Hartlett, Helbig
R: Willits, Tuck, Porplyzia
Int: Homburg, Hill, Johnson

If Middleton not fit, maybe a Jennings, Newell, Turner or Hampton to come in and Hardy to chop out in the ruck when Willits needs a coupe of minutes rest (that Middleton would hopefully do).
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Post by Bloodntars on Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:32 pm

Second Team wrote:Watchman in for Nelson. Shocked Shocked Shocked

According to this, Watchman is done for the season

http://www.sanfl.com.au/league/injuries/

WATCHMAN, Jesse Shoulder Season
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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by Lachlan on Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:56 pm

We are getting injuries to key players at a crucial time in the season.
I saw the Nelson incident and it was dumb

Fingers crossed Middleton plays.

Webb,Nelson,Solly and Watchman. All Ruckmen/ forwards unavailable

I hope Keough plays this week




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Post by aldo russian on Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:29 pm

Methinks Willits might be accepting the reprimand and not challenging it.
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Post by brodlach on Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:29 am

I believe Keough has a broken big toe?
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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by Thiele on Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:32 pm

Willetts 150th this week

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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by Lee Harradine on Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:58 am

Good luck to the boys today from Geirangerfjord, Norway.

A win before the bye is vital.
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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by Second Team on Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:58 pm

Random Thoughts.

1. WTF.
2. Well done to Brucey on a great 150 games.
3. Went in with lots of injuries and got some more.
4. Hope Nelson learns from being reported.
5. Can't see why we had every big man in defense for parts of the third quarter.
6. Really missed Tucky and Greeny today.
7. Kicking and handball skills by established players were average at best. If you run out of defense you should be able to kick it to our advantage.
8. Tough day out for the new kids.
9. 32 to 60 inside 50s makes it hard to win. Having said that Hardy was all over the ground which defeats the idea of getting a good forward into the club.
10. The bye is needed to get us back on track.
11. Hello to all the people in Geirangerfjord . Shocked Shocked Shocked

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Post by billrobs1 on Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:59 pm

1st qtr some of the best sanfl footy I have seen.

Don't want to talk about the rest other than to say thanks to:
Porps
Harts and
Keough
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Post by firstblood on Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:18 pm

I heard that the Port coach wasn't happy about the size of the visitors change rooms at City Mazda... perhaps he should have a good look at the visitors room at Alberton before whinging about ours.
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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by Lachlan on Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:20 pm

Went into the game with our weakest side this year however that's no excuse for our worst performance of the year.

1. We only had 32 tackles for the day which tells me we didn't put enough pressure on the ball carrier
2 We lacked intensity around the contest which allowed Port to break too many tackles
3 We weren't prepared to run both ways
4. Need to recruit another key defender next year
5. After 1/2 time we played a 7 and at times an 8 man defence with Porps and Hardy spending time there
6. Hopefully Fielke hasn't hurt his ankle too seriously
7. Nelson,Tuck,Ezard,Milne and Green available after the bye
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Post by Lachlan on Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:40 pm

Lack of height was a concern today.
With Webb,Nelson,Solly,Klemke,Watchman,Milne
and Francis ( U18 carnival) all sitting on the sidelines it makes things very difficult.

Stevens,Porps,Schmidt and Hartlett were our best
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Post by Lee Harradine on Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:19 pm

I am indeed at Gierangerfjord, ST. Just been on a spectacular drive to a mountain lookout.

Apart from not getting the 2 points, from afar today's result means roughly zero.

I look forward to getting our U18 lads back, along with the injured players.
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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by aldo russian on Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:32 am

I don't expect us to beat AFL teams. I don't know why we play them.
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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by Lachlan on Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:09 am

Aldo

Agree with you 100%
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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by LukeO9 on Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:54 pm

Just an addition to the comments above.....one particular umpire seemed not to know about the new rule "a free kick is awarded against any player who makes forceful contact below the knees of an opponent (does not apply to smothers with the hands or arms)." A particularly serious occurrence of this infringement was missed in the first quarter. Not only was it not paid to Hampton, but he was penalised for a high tackle...you gotta be kidd'n me!
The same umpire again did not pay this free in last quarter, that time against a Port player. Both players appeared to be hurt from these clear violations.
I don't like complaining about the umpiring. After mentioning their horrible performance at the South game, I refrained from commenting on the holding-the-ball decision not given at the end of the Norwood game. But I have to comment on yesterday's instances. The new rule was brought in to counteract a trend at the time to take away a players advantage and to protect players that now have the potential of gaining substantial contracts. I can accept that this rule took a while to get use to and that it can be difficult for the umpires to adjudicate, but the instances I mentioned were clear and can only be attributable to incompetence.
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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by Mypaspective on Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:09 pm

Come on guys, short memories. Adelaide have never beaten us & we have faired pretty well against Port in the past up until yesterday.

Take into consideration our unsettled side yesterday. No Nelson, Tuck, Green. Milne & also no Francis, Snelling , Haysman & Agostino plus Feilke copped an injury half way through. Our best forward line players in Feilke & Greeny were sorely missed. Also a couple of the other boys were carrying injuries & struggled.

Yes we were out worked & they were certainly faster yesterday after qtr time but hopefully after the bye we can regroup & get back to our early season form. I thought it looked like last Sunday's really tough game against Norwood had taken its toll.



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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by testy on Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:38 pm


And throw in Jimmy Ezard as well from last weeks side.

4 changes for any side would always be a big problem and we have to keep this in mind.
The FERALS were loaded with numerous AFL players and with the player losses we had it was always going to be a hard task to win.
With luck we should have a few back for our next game at prospect and the return of the "baby bloods" the week after.


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Post by captainblood on Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:09 am

testy wrote:
And throw in Jimmy Ezard as well from last weeks side.

4 changes for any side would always be a big problem and we have to keep this in mind.
The FERALS were loaded with numerous AFL players and with the player losses we had it was always going to be a hard task to win.
With luck we should have a few back for our next game at prospect and the return of the "baby bloods" the week after.



That's the trouble with this current set up.
Power reserves are always going to loaded with AFL players. It's their seconds team and that's never going to change. Apart from being professionals against part timers it's the make up of the team where they have a real advatage IMO.
They have drafted tall of late and a lot of these are really mobile players. Team like ours just can't get that much size and quality into one squad. Plus their few top up players aren't scrubbers.
Don't get me wrong,we have a nice team and our juniors are some of the best I've seen in ages but they'll be gone next year.
I'm getting more and more concerned about the unfair nature of their inclusion in the comp but that's an argument for later.
I do hold high hopes for our team but the bye hasn't come quick enough.
We looked out on our feet and undermanned last week. Hopefully the sore players are freshened up and we start getting our complete squad settled. The under age champs have hurt us this year (good luck to the boys.)
North at Prospect is not a happy hunting ground and we now need some wins on the board.
We need to finish top 3 at the end of the minor round to have a decent crack this year.
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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by firstblood on Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:03 am

LukeO9 wrote:Just an addition to the comments above.....one particular umpire seemed not to know about the new rule "a free kick is awarded against any player who makes forceful contact below the knees of an opponent (does not apply to smothers with the hands or arms)." A particularly serious occurrence of this infringement was missed in the first quarter. Not only was it not paid to Hampton, but he was penalised for a high tackle...you gotta be kidd'n me!
The same umpire again did not pay this free in last quarter, that time against a Port player. Both players appeared to be hurt from these clear violations.
I don't like complaining about the umpiring. After mentioning their horrible performance at the South game, I refrained from commenting on the holding-the-ball decision not given at the end of the Norwood game. But I have to comment on yesterday's instances.  The new rule was brought in to counteract a trend at the time to take away a players advantage and to protect players that now have the potential of gaining substantial contracts. I can accept that this rule took a while to get use to and that it can be difficult for the umpires to adjudicate, but the instances I mentioned were clear and can only be attributable to incompetence.

For those who haven't seen the incident... i did a short recording of it.. judge for yourself. If you want a better look, click on the [ ] icon (full screen) near the bottom right to see if the Port player have eyes for the ball only? As i posted on TFSA, should this be a reportable offence?.

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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by Wolf Pack on Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:39 pm

Looks even worse on the replay.
That umpire should be dropped this week.
Cannot believe a free kick was awarded to the diving Port player.
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Re: WEST V Port.

Post by loppy19 on Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:51 pm

I hope the club is making a formal complaint about the umpiring, Hampton could have sustained a broken leg, ACL or any other type of serious leg injury. The umpiring is a JOKE, worse than ever before. But then again the SANFL in general has gone downhill, so why wuld that be any different.
I must admit to beign confused, was at Alberton when the Magpies played their "last" game. Went on Saturday and saw the Magpies and their reserves team as well along with Port fans carrying on that they were supporting the Magpies and not the Port Power reserves. The whole concept is a JOKE, and the comp is compromised with 8 teams having one set of rules, the Crows another (more or less as what was required) and the Port Power reserves basically making up there own rules. Call me antiquated, old school non-visionary or whatever, but it is a farce.
Will never ever attend another West vs Crows/Power game again. Don't care what anyone says, a comp is a joke unless all teams have the same rules and salary cap.
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