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Post by mr o on Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:43 pm

all I can say after watching this game on the digipak is , we were whitches hats today, we have a lot of fringe players that do not get in to get the ball, and we desperately need a full forward, a focal point
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Post by Oldfella on Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:57 pm

Whilst not disagreeing it is important to remember who and the quality of the team we were playing
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Post by blood bath on Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:36 pm

To be honest, a team with 21 AFL listed players should win against a SANFL team depleted of experienced players (no Schmidt, Webb, Porps, Silverlock, Wilson etc) by 20 odd goals. I thought the team showed a bit of heart and pride to play the game out and continue to score in the final quarter.

Result says more about the competition than anything. Maybe magpies crows grand final may be what people need to see to realise clubs sold their souls when allowing them in
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Post by blacky on Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:51 pm

Certain media scribe wants one

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Post by Lachlan on Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:07 pm

I went to the game and a 20 goal loss was what I expected.

The Magpies had 21 AFL players and their Captain played ressies.

I agree with 'Blood Bath' regarding the number of experienced players
we had out injured, however even with those players available we are
deficent in so many areas.
We simply don't have the personnel to be competitive right now.
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Post by Wolf Pack on Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:19 pm

Well we are zip and 9....
9 games to go. We need to show something after the bye.
Can't say much about today.. But there needs to be a response against North in 2 weeks time at home.
It is a chance for us to grab a win.
A winless season is looking like a possibility.....


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Post by brodlach on Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:20 pm

Oldfella wrote:Whilst not disagreeing it is important to †remember who and the quality of the team we were playing

C'mon Oldfella a 21 goal loss is not acceptable no matter who you play
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Post by Oldfella on Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:41 pm

Yes 21 goals is a big loss no question no arguement but there must be a rational assessment of the task posed to the team in todays game. Few of long term supporters i have spoken to privately in last week expected us to lose by less than 20 goals if the power reserves turned up to play serious and not play around with team placements.

Bloodbath and Lachlan comments are in line with my thoughts

The power reserves are probably the form team at the moment with basically a full squad of fit quality players who are (in last couple of weeks) playing as a team. They flogged south the other week even after thier coach changed basically every position of the team in second half to look at players potential in other areas

As always respect your opinion
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Post by brodlach on Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:44 pm

I understand what you are saying, I too expected a loss but hoped for the best. I will never just accept a 21 goal loss and just 'move on'.

Cannot wait for seasons end.
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Post by Oldfella on Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:46 pm

Wolf pack quote "there needs to be a response against North in 2 weeks time at home".

Anything less than an extremely strong performance in this game would be totally unacceptable
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Post by brodlach on Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:47 pm

A win is the only response that is acceptable!
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Post by Oldfella on Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:49 pm

brodlach wrote:I understand what you are saying, I too expected a loss but hoped for the best. †I will never just accept a 21 goal loss and just 'move on'. †

Cannot wait for seasons end.

Cheers mate -- given years of standing around at preseason training i absolutely hate it but at the momenti am looking forward to preseason training as it means that season 2017 is over.

Seen your latest post and i agree
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Post by Lee Harradine on Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:46 pm

I agree with brodlach that, regardless of the opposition, a 20 goal loss is never acceptable.

We have to be better than that.
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Post by aldo russian on Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:00 pm

We have a lot of players who are not up to League standard. Some are inexperienced and are worth persevering with because they could be League players. (Sadly we don't have a core of in-form, experienced players to carry these kids along and still win games.) But some aren't showing enough.

Today, I thought none of our tall players controlled the air, with the exception of Keough who was possibly our best. In fact apart from him none of the talls contributed much at all, although McPherson did okay in ruck contests. Many of our mids and flankers didn't work hard enough. There wasn't enough serious chasing, even in the first quarter, and our tackling was often pathetic. Some players lack the intensity to play at this level.

Our kicking, and even our handballing at times, remains our achilles heel. Although just getting it today was a big problem.
When your 16th consecutive loss is by more than 20 goals I don't know how anyone is expected to believe that we are "moving in the right direction".
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Post by billrobs1 on Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:39 am

Lee and team. It pains me to say this but please make a coaching change now. I will be forever grateful to MM for 2015 but for the sake of the supporters, the board has to show a commitment to change now. It is clear things are getting worse and giving another head coach a try now may prove a great audition for an improved 2018.
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Post by MR BLOODHOUND on Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:04 am

What does Hugh Haysman have to do to get a game.Best player for 3 games in row in the reserves. Should be in the team .
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Post by Oldfella on Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:11 am

Another concern for me is replacement of senior good player/s who retire at end of season
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Post by blackandred on Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:09 pm

This game at Alberton, against a team of 21 professional footballers, saw us exposed for what we are: a team that tries hard but lacks the skills to compete against the very best. Standing in the sun on a perfect day for footy it was embarrassing to be a Westies supporter.

You simply cannot afford to make mistakes against a team as good as Port Power Reserves. We can just about get away with our fumbles and poor decisions when playing 3 or 4 of the lesser SANFL teams but when we come up against real class we are punished for our weaknesses.

Pre-season for 2018 needs to start now. That means a concentration on skill improvement. Our tackling is intense but lacking in technique Ė we must pin the arms to stop the handball. At Alberton we were handball happy and were constantly undone by our poor execution, with both hand and foot. Donít handball to a player under pressure, or a player standing next to you and donít handball to the playerís feet. It all seems so easy from the other side of the fence.

We need a specialised skills coach. Whatever is being taught now is not working. We have improved slightly from last year but seem to have levelled off to the point where we face the rest of the season with little hope.

Letís move on from this poor performance and regroup for North in 2 weeks.

Well done to Kenny Karpany for his fearless tackling. Keough probably our best, he certainly saw a lot of the ball at full back Ė most of the time sailing over his head. Stevens again was good, despite being knocked from pillar to post. Schiller worked hard.
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Post by TAAARS on Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:30 pm

Westies should never complain when we get belted by the AFL reserves. It was us who led the charge to let them in to our league.
Who will ever forget the kerb side media interview on TV of our then president stating that the meeting about to happen will decide this issue.
Ofcourse the ok was given by all but 2 of the clubs in the SANFL. I along with many of the clubs supporters was horrified that such a decision could be made with no consultation or vote by the membership.
Last Sunday we got what we deserve.
I feel for the players though. Lambs to the slaughter.
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Post by postie on Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:14 am

i totally agree with taaars as a member for a lot of years we as members must have rights which we were not given the right to vote on . even if our voice was not carried at least we voiced it. i know heichrachy will say in hindsight we might have got it wrong but in long term we are very much in danger of non excistence along with other sanfl clubs.even myself will go to all home games but pick and choose other matches which i never did before irspective of distance. i follow a afl club but my passion and enjoyment is west.as we Are a old supporter base club we need afl funding as they need our junior programs.and yes i will be there next match and do not question our players endevour.this is first post from me for a long time as do not want to be too negative.good health to all as we have lost a few very good supporters.go the bloods
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