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Post by Lee Harradine on Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:52 pm

Tomorrow night is our 'Team of the Centuries' night, where 350 people will attend the announcement of our best ever team, selected by a panel including Neil Kerley, Doug Thomas, Grantley Fielke, Bob Loveday, Brian Faehse, David Tidswell and me.

It would not have been possible without the huge effort put in by Mark Beswick, who provided all the stats and Graeme Barton who has overseen the whole process.

What's your team?

Have a crack at it here.

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Re: Team of the Centuries

Post by aldo russian on Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:06 am

Would Aldo Russian be a lock for first ruckman?
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Post by Mypaspective on Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:00 am

You wish Aldo. Keep writing that humour.

The night was an outstanding success & a very emotional event for passionate Bloods tragics like me.

Passionate, emotional & genuine felt speeches from not only the selected players but also descendants of deceased players like Bernie Smith, Edgar Bennetts, Richard Head etc were the highlight of the night only to be out done by “King Kerls”. Magnificent.

President Lee wound up the evening with one of his best performances, a well constructed, genuine, passionate & articulate speech which drew everyone in, leaving no doubts about his love of our great club.

Current League players presented the final team in a very professional manner. To Logan Hill, Jono Beech, Kaine Stevens & our skipper Tommy Keough well done boys, you made us proud.

PS: Mark Aiston was MC & interviewer. Also brilliant.

With the Hall of Fame event a couple of years ago this was undoubtedly one of the best organised shows the club has ever produced. Well done to all involved.
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Post by firstblood on Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:10 am


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Post by whispy on Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:33 am

Couldn’t they make an exception for Bruce Lindner?
Not sure how many games he played for Westies, but he was one of the most exciting players i have seen in a red and black jumper.
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Post by blood bath on Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:47 am

Adam Richardson a touch unlikely not to even make the bench or emergencies? Won Ken Farmer medal 4 years in a row, had a 100 goal + season and won a B&F. Numbers certainly stack up well
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Post by firstblood on Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:59 am

blood bath wrote:Adam Richardson a touch unlikely not to even make the bench or emergencies? Won Ken Farmer medal 4 years in a row, had a 100 goal + season and won a B&F. Numbers certainly stack up well

I think you'l find that Adam Richardson did not kick over 100 goals in a season, Roger Luders is the only player to do so, but i agree, he's a a bit unlucky not to make the side.
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Post by blood bath on Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:32 am

firstblood wrote:
blood bath wrote:Adam Richardson a touch unlikely not to even make the bench or emergencies? Won Ken Farmer medal 4 years in a row, had a 100 goal + season and won a B&F. Numbers certainly stack up well

I think you'l find that Adam Richardson did not kick over 100 goals in a season, Roger Luders is the only player to do so, but i agree, he's a a bit unlucky not to make the side.

My apologies, i thought he got his 100th in the 1998 finals series (lost prelim to Port who won GF after finishing 4th)
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Post by westborn on Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:41 am

Was a great night but someone really needs to check over and edit presentations for important functions like this one. Misspelling names, spelling and basic grammatical errors don't reflect well. Everyone at our table noticed it.
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Post by TAAARS on Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:39 pm

Bit confusing in IMHO how a player gets picked. I know there are heaps of contenders and all that but how come Bernie Smith Brownlow medalist gets in but not Mark Ricciuto or Adam Cooney also Brownlow medalists? Modra over Luders ? or didn't they play enough games for us to qualify? Fergie as good as he was for us never had a very long AFL career yet gets in? Would Doug Thomas be in the same class as some of the over looked for example?
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Post by Lee Harradine on Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:54 pm

Good questions, TAAARS.

The criteria was a minimum 50 games for Westies, which cuts out Ricciuto, Modra, Cooney & Co.

It's all about different opinions and that's great.

Who would you have had at full back, TAAARS?

As for Fergie, he would have been a star in any team we've put on the park. 4 Club B & F's is right up there.

In the end, it's opinions, which is part of the fun.

Can I say just how much it meant to those selected.
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Post by TAAARS on Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:16 pm

Not complaining just saying it is very hard to compare different decades. eg the SANFL dropped a level when the Crows entered the AFL/VFL and dropped again when Port entered.Not to mention the expanded AFL with the draft taking the cream of every state league playing list. Therefore players in recent decades if they were still in the state league had less to compete with. Love Fergy don't get me wrong but would he have won 4 B&Fs if in the same team as Modra,Ricciuto,Cooney etc? Maybe any future teams like this the amount of games required to qualify needs to be reduced to say 20 (1 season) because if they are standouts they quickly get taken by the AFL system,yet they remain and always will be a West Adelaide player in our eyes.
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Post by Mypaspective on Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:19 pm

Maybe in our eyes & I know what u r trying to say TAARS but all those players each played a couple of hundred AFL games for their respective clubs so in their eyes WAFC was only a means to an end.

I can’t speak for them but in talkking to them over the years they do not really consider themselves true West Adelaide players (due their short tenure) & I’m sure would be embarrassed if selected in our ToC’s team. For instance Mark Ricciuto has always considered Waikerie as his main club.

They do however respect our club for what it provided as a SANFL pathway at the time.

We will still always claim them though & that is fair enough also.
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Post by TAAARS on Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:19 pm

And yet we proudly have them up in our hall of fame( Photo's and all) of them receiving the Brownlow and proudly claim to be the only SANFL club (I think that is still correct) to have produced 3 Brownlow medalists. Should they come down then? No not at all.
Also what part of normal is having 5 selection panelists in the team? Surely they should be picked by their peers not by themselves? I would have thought it would mean more to them being that way in the first place. Most of the team are certainties anyway. Why would they be asked to go on the selection panel and pick themselves? Next thing we will have Lee Harradine lining up in the centre!
(sorry Lee can't help myself) But you get my drift? A bit embarrassing I think and should have been handled a bit better.
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Re: Team of the Centuries

Post by Lee Harradine on Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:28 pm

I thought I was a chance to play centre, TAAARS but somehow they preferred Head. Strange decision, but there you are.

There's no problem showing recognition to our drafted players, but that's a separate issue to the Team of the Century.

As for the selection procedure, everyone's opinion is worthwhile, but the team was met with general approval on the night. All I'll say is that the procedure was lengthy and stringent.
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Post by Oldfella on Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:48 pm

TAAARS wrote:Next thing we will have Lee Harradine lining up in centre

Taars, you are so right about lethal lee harradine he is definitely not a centre man but considering that he got a league stat for a wonderfull block of the ball perhaps he is more of a halfback lol

Having watched luders and modra in thier prime i believe while mods was great luders was everything he was and more. Not only kicked goals but handed of many was a very u selfish player.

I personaly think the selection criteria was very apt in terms of games played and i feel that the end team was very close ----

Only selection i most strongly did not agree with was rodney pope who reguardless of reason turned his back on westies and went to play many games for norwood --- unforgiveable imo

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Post by Lachlan on Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:57 pm

I don't envy the selection panel they had the toughest job of all.
It's very subjective, however Craig Williams would have been my choice for Fullback.
Peter Meuret was a sensational player and would have been my choice for the interchange ahead of Porps.
Adam Richardson was also unlucky.
The Team selected is without question magnificent and it can be debated for ever on who should and shouldn't be in the team.
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Post by whispy on Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:25 am

This guy was unlucky not to get in.

Ron Benton
Fast, elusive and courageous, West Adelaide’s Ron Benton was, in the words of Jeff Pash, “a heroic little figure” for whom “every game seems to be another survival”¹. Over the course of his 184-game 198-goal league career between 1955 and 1959 and from 1961 to 1965 he achieved virtually everything the game had to offer: a Magarey Medal and club best and fairest award in 1957, interstate football (albeit only one game), a near best afield performance in the winning Grand Final of 1961 against Norwood, and West Adelaide’s leading goal kicker award (with 29 goals) in 1963. He was, without doubt, one of the most illustrious players in the history of a club that, over the years, has been blessed with a disproportionately high number of top quality footballers.
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Post by Lee Harradine on Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:26 am

Yes, Ron was a terrific player.

I remember him as a great stab kick pass also.
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Post by Oldfella on Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:43 pm

My personal ron benton story

Years ago there was not a big magary medal dinner with players present like now rather officials from all clubs got together and counted the votes and the winner was contacted normaly by phone.

I was sleeping overnight at my grandparents place in grey street west end of adelaide when in the middle of the night i heard this male voice yelling "ickle, ickle they just rang me and said i have won the magary medal" ------ ickle was my late grandfather life member thomas harold hamilton and the voice was ron benton.

Ron benton was a great footballer but an even greater guy a real club legend

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Post by aldo russian on Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:51 pm

He was a bit of a surprise winner wasn't he?
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Post by aldo russian on Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:53 pm

Oldfella wrote:
Only selection i most strongly did not agree with was rodney pope who reguardless of reason turned his back on westies and went to play many games for norwood  --- unforgiveable imo

What's your understanding of the reason behind this oldfella? I can only recall talk that he had a falling out with Fos.
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Post by Lee Harradine on Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:56 pm

Rod made it clear he didn't want to leave.
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Post by Oldfella on Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:25 pm

aldo russian wrote:
Oldfella wrote:
Only selection i most strongly did not agree with was rodney pope who reguardless of reason turned his back on westies and went to play many games for norwood  --- unforgiveable imo

What's your understanding of the reason behind this oldfella? I can only recall talk that he had a falling out with Fos.

I have no knowledge of why he left  but he did play many games for another sanfl team could be wrong

Givest thoughtsn the many quality halfbacks we have had over the years that played only for westies in the sanfl then i just felt this was the only error by the panel --- to answer obvious question perhaps tony burges or more recently daniel caire there is multitudes of choices  

Probably wrong but my honest thoughts

His career highlights when inducted into the sanfl
PLAYING RECORD:• 209 games for West Adelaide 1962 – 1973
• 95 games for Norwood 1974 – 1979

PREMIERSHIPS:
• Member of premiership teams for Norwood 1975

MATCHES FOR SOUTH AUSTRALIA: 
• 10 games for South Australia

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• Best and fairest for West Adelaide 1964 & 1968
• Best and fairest for Norwood 1976
• Player life member of the West Adelaide
• Player life member of the SANFL
• Member of the South Australian Football Hall of Fame (Inducted 2004)

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Post by blackandred on Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:40 pm

A very worthwhile project. So many wonderful footballers produced by the club. Great memories and some even better arguments.

I came unstuck early on when deciding on the CHB. Couldn’t pick between Brian Faehse, Jeff Bray and Ryan Ferguson. 3 amazing players.

Also, Robert Day was the best centreman I have seen playing for Westies but he ended up on a half forward flank. This would put him up against someone like Paul Garnett. I would argue that Garnett was a better half forward flanker than Day. Garnett was a specialist – he would get 5 kicks a game but kick 4 goals. Similarly, Ken Eustice would have played most of his footy (for West) across the centre and he ended up on a half back flank. Having said this he could play anywhere and be a champion.

Johnny Taylor unlucky to miss out on a half back flank. 200 game/ premiership player. Some very good players missed out. Agree that Ron Benton was unlucky but we have had so many good midfielders.

My (fading) memory of Ron Benton’s 1957 Magarey medal was that he was at the movies on the night of the call and a note was put on the screen telling him to report to the manager. Fearing a family accident he went to the manager's office to be told by WA officials he had won the medal. This account would still be compatible with the previous post.

When Doug Thomas came back from a coaching stint in Dimboola he played a bit of footy at full forward. All this proved was what a good full back he was. I can remember him kicking out from full back and the ball landing in front of the Richmond oval grandstand! As a FF he was possibly the last player to dropkick set shots for goal. More than a few would be kicked into the man on the mark!

Well done to all concerned for putting this fabulous team together.

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