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Post by aldo russian on Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:23 pm

So who goes out and who comes in this week?
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Post by Thiele on Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:14 pm

Season tickets only for us. As only 1000 can attended.

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Post by Wolf Pack on Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:16 pm

I’m still waiting for my season ticket.........
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Post by Lee Harradine on Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:19 pm

I can't remember if they were sent out. I presume they were, just so long ago without using them.
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Post by Thiele on Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:29 pm

I have my past players and Life member passes

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Post by firstblood on Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:09 pm

This weekend sees the 2020 SANFL Statewide Super League season return to SANFL venues for Round 3.

Whilst we would love nothing more than to see an army of Bloods supporters at the game this weekend, unfortunately entry is required to be limited to 1000 spectators under State Government COVID-19 regulations.

Entry will therefore be limited for our Round 3 match to Club members with match access as part of their membership.

We know this will cause disappointment and frustration for many supporters, but please understand we all must do the right thing to stop any outbreak of COVID-19 happening in South Australia.

Due to this restriction on attendances, there are some important things for you to know ahead of this weekend:

   Entry is only available to Sturt Season and Home Match ticketed members and West Adelaide Season ticketed members / Season ticket holders; these include the following members:
       Season Members / Season Ticket Holders
       Past Player & Official (Season) Members
       Gold Members
       Westonian Coterie Group (Season) Members



   Only paid Junior Members will be able to scan in, including;
       Captain's Kids
       Young Bloods
       Westies Youth Members (U18's).



   All other non-ticketed membership categories will not be given entry this weekend.

   Entry will be on a first in, first serve basis - we therefore strongly encourage you to arrive early (please refer to gate opening times revealed later this week).

   Once there is a count of 1000 people inside the venue, gates will be locked. We will keep members updated on social media and advise if we have reached capacity.

   Have your barcoded 2020 membership card ready for scanning at the gate. (Note: it is not a requirement this weekend to have a digital ticket on a smart phone.



Once inside the venue, we ask that you adhere to social distancing of 1.5 metres and apply good hygiene protocols.

Once again, we thank your continuing support and understanding of the significant challenges every SANFL Club is facing in delivering a football season in a COVID-19 environment.

For further information on entry details, please keep checking the Club website and Facebook page, or contact the Club for further enquiries.

And remember, if you can’t be at the game this weekend, we welcome all members and supporters to come along to the West Adelaide Football Club to watch the match in the Westies Bar! Alternatively you can purchase the SANFL Digital Pass online.
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Post by Thiele on Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:28 pm

West Adelaide could inject a 2015 premiership player into its line-up to face Sturt at Peter Motley Oval.

Midfielder Hugh Haysman, who was originally set to play with Essendon’s VFL side this year, has returned to Richmond and been included in the 25-man squad to face the Double Blues.

The 23-year-old has been joined on the extended interchange bench by fellow inclusions Jade Cleeland, Mitch Duval and Ed Allan, a former Double Blue.

Half-back Mitch Taylor has been sent back to the Reserves.



F: Karpany, Thilthorpe, Schiller

HF: P. Fairlie, Keough, Kirk

C: Willsmore, Johnson, Boyle

HB: Dunkin, Levicki, Batley

B: Anderson, Ryan, Waite



R: Parrella, K. Stevens, Hill

INT: Haysman, Cleeland, May, B. Turner, Hupfeld, Duval, Allan

IN: Haysman, Duval, Allan, Cleeland

OUT: Taylor

NEW: Ed Allan (Sturt), Mitch Duval (Unley)



Reserves
Davidson, Ellem, Elliot, C. Fairlie, Forbes, Grant, Groom, Harris, Majok, Martin, McKenzie, Mead, Morrish, Nield, Pearce, Sareen, Squire, Stevens, R. Stevens, Taverner, Taylor, G. Turner



Under-18
F: Sgroi, Young, Pridham
HF: Boughen, Rundle, Hahn
C: White, De Cesare, Dunkin
HB: Bock, Kelly, Venning
B: Singleton, Sherlock, Van den Berg

R: Heitmann, Kennedy, Chamberlain
INT: Faulkner, Desira, O’Connor-Dawkins, Midwinter

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Post by Lee Harradine on Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:20 pm

What could have been.  We kept in the game all day, against a fairly ordinary Sturt team, who racked up meaningless possessions a lot. The better points were:

An excellent ruck debut from Stuart Taverner, especially his first half.  Isaac Johnson was dangerous all day and should play 150 games for us as a forward flanker.  I liked Josh Ryan's game, thought Brett Turner had a better game. Too many quiet players, though and we lacked a dominant midfielder.

On a general note, it wasn't much of a spectacle, in line with the way the game's played now, with low scoring and not much open space.

Riley Thilthorpe is going to be some player.

Didn't see much in the Reserves and the 18's yesterday were poor also, do let's hope we can lift.  

There's no doubting the effort and our fitness looks much improved, but we're lacking in some areas.
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Post by Lachlan on Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:38 pm

We had 10 more inside 50’s then Sturt. Our forward line needs an overhaul.
We had 3 forwards that were impotent, KIRK,HUPFELD and KARPANY. They need to be replaced by HAYSMAN, CLEELAND and MORRISH.
Morrish may not be ready, but he only needs 3 kicks and he will 3 goals.
Cleeland can be the second ruck which means Tilthorpe plays forward all day.
We were beaten In the midfield that’s for sure, we need to RECRUIT 2 BIG BODIED MIDFIELDERS that can also kick. We made it a scrap all day we just don’t have the talent.
Taverner playing his first game was very good. Allan playing his first game struggled, he did kick a goal. He lacks pace so he needs to build a bigger body. Duval also playing his first game was quiet, he did take a very good mark in the last qrt,he will develop. He maybe a better half back flanker than the third tall defender.

The effort and Will for the contest is there unfortunately we don’t have the talent.


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Post by redblack32 on Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:03 pm

Lachlan, agree with ur Kirk and Hupfeld assessment.
They need to go back to the reserves.
Karpany for me, even though he was quiet today, it’s his pressure that I like.
5 tackles and who knows how many 1%Ers. Still think he could become quiet a good league player for us.


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Post by blackandred on Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:16 pm

At the 25 minute mark of the last Q we were only down by a point and in with a real chance. Sturt then closed the game down and we couldn’t create any run or breakaway so we went down in what was a vastly improved performance from last week.
Full marks for the blokes out there today for playing the full 100 minutes on a cow paddock of a ground against a strong defensive Sturt that spend most of the time going sideways.
Our fitness and endeavour could not be faulted. We had plenty of the ball but struggled to kick goals. Our forward structure needs some work. A ten minute period in the 3Q where we dominated the play but didn’t take advantage was a key negative for us. Sturt kicked freaky goals and had the best of the umpiring. They beat us in the air and once again our forwards failed to take enough contested marks.
Willsmore and Parella didn’t play. New ruckman Taverner, 202cm, is a nice palmer of the ball and looked good. Isaac Johnson our best. Thilthorpe had his best game in what has been a slow start to the year. Ryan and Batley solid down back.
The 2s looked ordinary. Haysman needs a few more weeks.
Overall, some good signs today. Feeling much happier than last week.
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Post by Wolf Pack on Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:20 pm

I feel for our coach!!!
He is a good coach but simply doesn’t have enough talent at his disposal.
Our forward line is poor. Thilthorpe is a target but he has about 8 games left as a Bloods player.
Our backline is poor. We have conceded the most points in the comp.
Cannot question the effort but we are still winless and it’s hard to see us actually winning a game at this point.
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Post by scrappy on Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:32 pm

Riley Thilthorpe and Issac Johnson look to be very good players
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Post by aldo russian on Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:19 pm

I agree with a lot of the assessments here. And we really did get a pretty savage run from the umpires. Too many non-contributors though. No midfielder exerted an influence on the game for us.

We're also getting nothing from our small defenders. Hill, Anderson and Dunkin are giving us no run or effective rebound from defence. Dunkin needs a break from the responsibility of his role in defence and needs to be freed up with a move upfield for a while.

Taverner was very good on debut, and can palm the ball to advantage. I'd ruck he and Parella off the bench and leave Thilthorpe to play up forward. Isaac Johnson again very good but someone needs to help him with his kicking. Given how many coaches we have these days you'd think one of them might be able to do that.
Duvall is well worth persevering with - good size, tidy skills and took that terrific mark at a crucial time.
Still intrigued though as to why, when we go forward so often, our forwards rarely seem to have that one metre break on their opponents that opposition forwards seem to have on our defenders.
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Post by Lachlan on Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:41 pm

Also,

I agree with you about our small defenders they have given no rebound in any of our matches. It’s seems as though Dunkin is playing a different role to last year, he seems to be more defensive.
I agree he needs to be moved, why not try him in the midfield we need some extra grunt in that area.
Batley has played in defence for the past 2 games, I’m not sure why given he was our best player against North playing on a wing and through the midfield.
If Willsmore is fit next week perhaps he moves to half back.
We seem to have 4 wingmen Willsmore,Batley,Waite and Boyle.

We need to try and play a few of our players in different positions, it’s worth the risk as we haven’t won a game

The players are playing in the same positions as they did last year,it’s time to change things up.
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Post by mikeme on Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:07 am

A great game by Tavener who started in the Reserves before coming off to replace Parella at clearly late notice.
Our guys again worked their Butts off and never gave up, even in the last quarter when the umpiring was a little bit questionable (2 - 14 in last quarter) they continued to play to the whistle.
Surely just a little tweak here and there should be enough to get us over the line soon.
I am sure we do not have to throw the baby out with the bath water just yet.
Clearances - we were only just behind 35 to 38 so the midfield guys held there own but unfortunately we had a few quick outs where we missed targets.
Not sure if any one has looked at the ladder but we are sitting 6th how good is that.....Yes we shoulda , coulda been higher but it is what it is and we all look forward to a big game this week against the Tigers.

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Post by bruce cameron on Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:49 pm

blackandred wrote:
Full marks for the blokes out there today for playing the full 100 minutes on a cow paddock of a ground against a strong defensive Sturt that spend most of the time going sideways.
Our fitness and endeavour could not be faulted. We had plenty of the ball but struggled to kick goals. Our forward structure needs some work. A ten minute period in the 3Q where we dominated the play but didn’t take advantage was a key negative for us. Sturt kicked freaky goals and had the best of the umpiring. They beat us in the air and once again our forwards failed to take enough contested marks.


Our forward set up is the issue. We have generated more inside 50s than our opposition in the first 3 rounds. Our scoring efficiency is 50%. Our forwards struggle to take contested marks. It's hard to see us kicking a winning score.
As expectations are quite modest, why not be a bit more creative. I think too often teams rely on getting the processes right and hope that this will be reflected on the scoreboard. Players need to show some initiative. Learn to read the game. Our effort's good for the most part, we just need to play smarter. What do we need to do to hit the scoreboard more often?
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Post by mikeme on Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:57 pm

At times we need to be a bit smarter going into the 50.
We seem to play like kids at times at all run to the same spot. We need to give the incoming kick more options or at least give Tilthorpe a one on one contest that he seems to be getting stronger at. If we can spread a bit better, Hisense Arena should help, get some options and who Knows.....

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Post by Lachlan on Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:36 pm

We had 3 players in our forward line who were very poor against Sturt, Hupfeld, Kirk and Karpany. They simply aren’t league footballers and all of them need to be dropped this week.
Cleeland,Haysman and Morish to come in. Tilthorpe therefore plays forward for the whole game and Cleeland is your second Ruck.


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Post by blackandred on Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:01 pm

Hupfeld has kicked 6 goals in our 3 games. He had a shocker on Sunday but he takes an opposition tall and can sometimes fly under the radar of opposition coaches. Think it is a little premature to drop our leading scorer - especially twice!! Others to go before him.
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Post by Lachlan on Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:45 pm

Hupfeld kicked 4 goals against North 3 of which came in the last qrt when the game was over. The goals were in junk time.
He Kicked 2 goals well before half time against Centrals and only touched the ball once after that when he had simple running shot on goal from 25m and his kick hit the behind post on the full.
Against Sturt he wasn’t competitive.

Unfortunately Hupfeld isn’t tall enough to be a key Position Player in a league side. And he isn’t good enough to hold down the third tall forward roll either as he is a kick mark player.
He wouldn’t be in my side for the rest of the year and I would move him on at years end.
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Post by Wolf Pack on Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:38 am

Not sure if Cleeland gives anything more than Hupfield would.
They have both been underwhelming in their time at the club.
Perhaps Gibson Turner can get a chance. He kicks goals and gives us a bit of X factor.....
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Post by Lee Harradine on Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:59 am

Forwards rely on delivery and the way the game is now played at SANFL and AFL level makes it hard to kick multiple goals. I think Hupfeld has been OK so far and doubt we'd gain anything by dropping him.

Jade Cleeland looks a more confident player now that he's had 12 months to settle in, but Taverner's strong debut makes it harder to include him just yet. Presumably Andre Parella will be back next week and I can't see us playing both ruckmen, especially with Thilthorpe being flexible.

Ideally we need to strengthen our midfield to take some pressure off Kaine Stevens. Brett Turner had a better game last Sunday, Murray Waite was good in patches, Josh Schiller looked a bit restricted after a good game against Central, but we need more consistency there.

We also have to find more run and penetration from defence, rather than the safe option which slows up our attack.

The boys are giving a great contest and running out games, but we're still off the pace with some tough games to come.
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Post by Lachlan on Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:19 pm

The only reason why I would play Cleeland was for Team balance it would mean won of our best forwards Tilthorpe would play FORWARD for the whole game. We struggle to kick goals therefore playing Tilthorpe forward for the entire match would be better for us.
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Post by MR BLOODHOUND on Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:14 pm

Jake Cleeland is the most likely of the ruckmen to kick goals . Parella and Taverener maybe better tap ruckmen than Cleeland butb he is more mobile and a better kick .
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